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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.moderncolorworkflow.com/blog/a-controversy-and-its-consequences#comment-353</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jun 2013 20:54:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[An excellent piece.. Thanks]]></description>
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		<title>By: Dan Margulis</title>
		<link>http://www.moderncolorworkflow.com/blog/a-controversy-and-its-consequences#comment-339</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jun 2013 17:38:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Peter, your point is very valid. Prior to this latest controversy, which brought the issue to more people’s attention, I had recommended CC to several people. I don’t believe I could do so any more, now that I understand these terms.

The software deactivates unless you get a permission from Adobe’s server each month, with a certain grace period. If you happen to be somewhere without internet for a few days then I guess it’s your problem. But these terms go much farther:

*Adobe is under no obligation to continue Creative Cloud. It can stop supporting it at any time, for any reason or no reason at all, without any notice, leaving you with useless software.

*Adobe has no responsibility for maintaining its servers. If something shuts them down for a few days and they don’t have enough staff to get back up again, you have no recourse when your programs stop working.

*Adobe has absolute, unlimited power to refuse to reactivate you at any time, for any reason they deem sufficient or for no reason at all. If, two years from now, they run across your comment and decide to teach you a lesson, they can cut you off and you have no recourse.

*If they do any of these things that are clearly permitted by the terms, and you nevertheless decide to sue Adobe, you must do so only in Santa Clara County, California.

Anybody, therefore, considering signing onto CC needs to answer these questions.
1) Does the deal make sense for you financially?

2) If so, are you willing to accept these terms?

3) If so, are you willing to do business with Adobe at this moment, in view of their recent conduct?

For me personally, the answer to #1 is negative, so I don’t have to worry about #2 and #3. But for many others, the answer to #1 may be positive, in which case they’ll have to make up their own minds about the other two questions.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter, your point is very valid. Prior to this latest controversy, which brought the issue to more people’s attention, I had recommended CC to several people. I don’t believe I could do so any more, now that I understand these terms.</p>
<p>The software deactivates unless you get a permission from Adobe’s server each month, with a certain grace period. If you happen to be somewhere without internet for a few days then I guess it’s your problem. But these terms go much farther:</p>
<p>*Adobe is under no obligation to continue Creative Cloud. It can stop supporting it at any time, for any reason or no reason at all, without any notice, leaving you with useless software.</p>
<p>*Adobe has no responsibility for maintaining its servers. If something shuts them down for a few days and they don’t have enough staff to get back up again, you have no recourse when your programs stop working.</p>
<p>*Adobe has absolute, unlimited power to refuse to reactivate you at any time, for any reason they deem sufficient or for no reason at all. If, two years from now, they run across your comment and decide to teach you a lesson, they can cut you off and you have no recourse.</p>
<p>*If they do any of these things that are clearly permitted by the terms, and you nevertheless decide to sue Adobe, you must do so only in Santa Clara County, California.</p>
<p>Anybody, therefore, considering signing onto CC needs to answer these questions.<br />
1) Does the deal make sense for you financially?</p>
<p>2) If so, are you willing to accept these terms?</p>
<p>3) If so, are you willing to do business with Adobe at this moment, in view of their recent conduct?</p>
<p>For me personally, the answer to #1 is negative, so I don’t have to worry about #2 and #3. But for many others, the answer to #1 may be positive, in which case they’ll have to make up their own minds about the other two questions.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Figen</title>
		<link>http://www.moderncolorworkflow.com/blog/a-controversy-and-its-consequences#comment-331</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Jun 2013 00:05:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I generally agree with most of what you&#039;re saying. My biggest problem with this rollout, as it is, is that the consumer has no choice at all in the matter, and for professionals like myself, who have to keep the latest versions of software to accommodate clients, we are literally being forced into something we may not want. 

But the issue being ignored and hardly mentioned anywhere that troubles me the most is the new licensing agreement that goes along with your new Creative Cloud service. It&#039;s sort of like a cross between Facebook and the worst credit card you&#039;ve ever had. I don&#039;t know if I can, in good conscience, agree to the new terms and conditions. When I&#039;ve asked a couple of the more vocal Adobe defenders about this, they conveniently skirt the issue, even though they have spent most of their adult lives speaking out against similar terms and conditions. Anyone who has taken the time to read through these terms should be seriously worried. I don&#039;t know how serious Adobe is about them, but the fact that they are there is enough. 

There is still too much unknown about what is coming to make any kind of decision, but we only have another month and a half to decide whether or not to take advantage of the introductory offers that are available. 

Abobe had already gone to great length to become know as the tech company with the worst tech support in the industry (save Corel) but this debacle has completely soured me on Adobe as a company, and I&#039;m sure I speak for many many people.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I generally agree with most of what you&#8217;re saying. My biggest problem with this rollout, as it is, is that the consumer has no choice at all in the matter, and for professionals like myself, who have to keep the latest versions of software to accommodate clients, we are literally being forced into something we may not want. </p>
<p>But the issue being ignored and hardly mentioned anywhere that troubles me the most is the new licensing agreement that goes along with your new Creative Cloud service. It&#8217;s sort of like a cross between Facebook and the worst credit card you&#8217;ve ever had. I don&#8217;t know if I can, in good conscience, agree to the new terms and conditions. When I&#8217;ve asked a couple of the more vocal Adobe defenders about this, they conveniently skirt the issue, even though they have spent most of their adult lives speaking out against similar terms and conditions. Anyone who has taken the time to read through these terms should be seriously worried. I don&#8217;t know how serious Adobe is about them, but the fact that they are there is enough. </p>
<p>There is still too much unknown about what is coming to make any kind of decision, but we only have another month and a half to decide whether or not to take advantage of the introductory offers that are available. </p>
<p>Abobe had already gone to great length to become know as the tech company with the worst tech support in the industry (save Corel) but this debacle has completely soured me on Adobe as a company, and I&#8217;m sure I speak for many many people.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Basir</title>
		<link>http://www.moderncolorworkflow.com/blog/a-controversy-and-its-consequences#comment-328</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eric Basir]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Jun 2013 13:44:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well stated as usual. I haven&#039;t given up scouring &quot;alternatives&quot; for professional retouching. The only one that I have found that handles Lab and CMYK is PhotoLine (pl32.com). Seems like a decent small company. Although we can get a lot of miles out of almost all previous versions of Photoshop, it&#039;s good to know.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well stated as usual. I haven&#8217;t given up scouring &#8220;alternatives&#8221; for professional retouching. The only one that I have found that handles Lab and CMYK is PhotoLine (pl32.com). Seems like a decent small company. Although we can get a lot of miles out of almost all previous versions of Photoshop, it&#8217;s good to know.</p>
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